The best take on this subject is by the author himself: this is about slime lawyers looking to build a national narrative and get a few wins in, so they can more easily get the next win and the next one, the next one and so on. 01:10. But it hardly indicts the P320 as a badly engineered weapon or that its worse than another brand. The investigation revealed the use of an incorrect holster not designed for a [SIG] P320, said the statement, which was released Friday and posted to a U.S. online pro-industry publication, Soldier Systems. A fellow kept his DA revolver in the desk. Have you ever noticed that big trouble usually comes in groups of 3. Mine is very accurate. Posts: 21156 | Registered: November 05, 2003. Theyre the only product that is not. Liberal, Conservative. You arent a gunfighter, either. A lot like carrying a cocked and locked 1911 but with the safety off. There were a lot of changes. You simply may not PREFER one make to another, or may simply dislike another make, but were to the point in semi-auto pistol production history where amongst the big brands, the only real distinctions are preference. While it seems that I have a preference for battle ships, The Romulans had Warbirds. I carry one in my front pocket routinely. I can say one thing for sure, the X on the side of the my is about is welcoming to me as grip zone was. Not much detail is provided in any of those other claimed incidents, but a few stand out. If they recruit smart cops, they wont have cops who will act against their political opponents outside of the constitution. Its hard to say yet but with anything follow the basic safety rules. The second accidental shooting happened after police supervisors internally raised questions about the safety of the SIG Sauer P320. If you want to find the lowest form of life on the planet interview any C.E.O. Theyve now come to the attention of the legacy media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA, Simply put, the P320 is not safe and the lawsuits arent frivolous. Again the Far Right Stupidity and hypocrisy is infinite. So are dumb(or arrogant) cops. And yes, if I pulled some of those stunts, Id have my membership revoked. No picture for me. The hype leading up to the P365 was pretty intense and the LGS sold a bunch of those. His annual qualification consisted of shooting 32 rounds. If it was so bad, why did the US Marines, who had the Glock, drop it in favor of the carry sized P320, the M18? Ever since the internet went mainstream I have read about the Sigs decline. I cant stand Glocks but SIG P320s are junk. (The defect couldnt be duplicated after the crash.). You clanging a bell that went silent years ago. Get a dead trigger when the striker breaks. Im a Kirk guy, a Shatner Kirk guy. And the fact they used real models, and big ones, gives the ships a real sense of heft, mass, movement and solidity that the garbage CGI ships of the new movies just cannot remotely compete with. Bravo. Quite frankly, a sizable number of the LEOs that go there, would benefit from a Gun Safety 101 class. Everyone remembers the problems the Beretta M9 had, but it got sorted and they went on to serve over 30 years. I wouldnt be surprised if she did it intentionally, she clearly suffers from a serious case of media whoring. The claimed mode of failure was that the tab on the drop safety that interferes with the striker movement had been sheered off and stopped being a drop safety. Theyve gotten tons of contracts because the gun is cheap, cheap, cheap to make. So I give a ton of credit to Shatner for reading the reality of what it was and in essence, saving it. Who knows. Weird how that might happen. NO, SIG has a problem that they would rather fight in court. Instead we see a Sig that is ran by Mr. Cohen of Kimber fame have repeated quality and product development failures. Companies stay silent About $300. Bagnell is representing a number of the police officers who have filed suits against SIG for un-commanded discharges, but wouldnt disclose the exact number. So it never had a history of a potential valid claim for ambulance chasers to work off of. Thinking its okay to wrap a loaded gun in a towel and toss it into a gym bag is what we get when departments refuse to hire candidates who score too high on IQ tests. They didnt see a problem at all and in fact, saw it as an upgrade over Glock. This is this same company that couldnt build their own freaking rifles after multiple attempts (Sig SG550 series) when that rifle had been made in Switzerland for years without issue. My elderly aunt drove her Volvo into a parked car, and the yard behind it, and the house behind that, while she was pressing the brake as hard as she could. Strangely the car kept accelerating, almost as if she were flooring the gas pedal. I agree that Glock is sitting on their laurels and has been for decades. 19 Feb 2021 Military.com | By Matthew Cox A former U.S. Marine and federal agent has filed a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer Inc. alleging that his holstered Sig P320 -- a pistol. Theyre cheering for a noose around their own precious Glocks throat. None of the current lawsuits appear to be in any way related to the now-fixed drop safety issue and most, if not all of the allegations seem to involve upgraded pistols or those produced after the drop safety problem was identified by SIG. If the gangster greed monger criminal Capitalvanians in the gun industry had their products under the jurisdiction of the consumer safety administration all the newer striker fired guns would never have been allowed on the market unless they had manual safeties and a safe take down system. This reminds me of when Gretchen Carlson sued Fox News for sexual harassment and she got 20 million dollars. I sold that pistol when I got it back. The guys at the LGS saw only one broken striker but it confirmed what the manager who had the P320 go off and my thoughts. As for the Serpa holster, this is a bunch of internet echo chamber BS that originated with Obama-era federal agencies putting a bad light on a good product in order to sway public opinion and thus damage the manufacturers bottom line. These cops seem pretty dang stupid if they put loaded guns in gym bags and purses with other stuff and carry them around, especially a gun that lacks manual safeties. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. This is the goal of those who would disarm us at the Post Office, as we take little Yevgeniy or little Shaquina to school, as we fulfill our civic responsibilities as jurors to judge our peers, as we travel to and through less free jurisdictions. What exactly did Harrison mean by legal momentum? That isnt clear, but its easy to make an educated guess. So even if, as the ambulance chaser claims, the striker leg could vibrate off of the sear face, it could not discharge unless the drop safety was also disengaged because the drop safety prevents movement of the striker sufficient to make the firing pin protrude from the breech face. Harrison stated that, I have not seen enough to convince me that the upgraded version is dangerous., When ABCs David Scott asked Harrison if its a mystery whats going wrong with the updated version though Harrison had just stated the upgraded pistol isnt dangerous Harrison said, I do not have an explanation for why the updated version should have complaints from trained individuals. But were way past the days of major league, internationally known gunmakers turning out complete crap, selling it and the public living with it. I went to an outdoor public range with a local SWAT entry team leader. Once word of that got out there was an avalanche of sexual harassment lawsuits against Fox news. Its not happening on your person without some catastrophic event. Quit blaming cops or the military, these guns have a serious problem. I love when people call law enforcement officers highly trained. Most dont get more training than what they had in the academy unless they are getting paid time to train, or are going for something speciality such as S.W.A.T. Dont care for them, not my jam. The details are not out yet, but they use Glocks, and I will make a good bet that her trigger finger did the deed. And they would not have done that for no reason at all. Neither argument is relevant or very intelligent and certainly not useful. One hell of a conspiracy. No the devil went down to Georgia to learn how to play a fiddle. Second, every gun maker has made lemons in the past. The same should hold true for the insane marketing of pistols like the totally unsafe Glock. . Training and experience are not a talisman that magically prevents accidents. The clearest memory I have about the many people experiencing post-upgrade discharges is a cop who set his P320 on a table, and several seconds after letting go, IT DISCHARGED ON ITS OWN! I dont know nothing about Sigs, I do know any gunm that goes off when I lay it on a table gets sold with a warning and I never touch that brand or model again. Happy with my old S&W revolvers, 3rd Gen S&W pistols,1911s and a slew of P226s. Big public relations disaster and Sig tries a second time to get the piece of shit to work and not go off when dropped. Thats the American system at work in all its corrupt majesty. LOL! The suit also cites other occurrences of "un-commanded" discharges with the 320 while holstered. The list is long proving gun manufactures were well aware of this problem now for 121 years yet they abandoned this when the Glock infested the gun market. How many times does a pistol have to malfunction before you blame it? Note also that ABC didnt provide any context for the number of suits filed against SIG. Not only is it now the designated sidearm of all branches of the U.S. military, there are over a million of them in civilian hands. Ironic that the trendsetters of yesteryear are trying to tear down the innovator of today because its Not perfected yet! and the Design isnt worked out!. Sig P320 Accidental Discharge 2021 Perhaps nothing speaks more clearly to the need for a total recall than the fact that in 2021, over four years after Sig Sauer offered its voluntary upgrade, people are still suffering injuries and lawsuits continue to be filed. Asked if the guns in these cases could have been mishandled, Villani responds, When I see videos of police officers getting out of their car and their weapon discharges in their holsters, nah, theres a problem with the gun. ABC then ran bodycam footage of a pre-upgrade P320 firing as a Michigan state trooper exited his patrol car in 2016 with no mention of the results of any subsequent investigation. The thing I hate is getting kicked around! U.S. lawsuits Holding the striker fully cocked with nothing to block it if the sear fails is questionable at best. Again, these are examples the plaintiff in this case is using to support his claim that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. The P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program is a SIG SAUER initiative to upgrade P320 pistols at no additional cost . The settlement requires the gunmaker to reimburse owners of . If you can make the trigger move backwards, all bets are off. https://millsentertainment.smugmug.com/William-Shatner-The-Wrath-of-Khan Watching all these Glock fan boys drool over these lawsuits in their tribal brand-lust is like watching the talking heads on CNN announcing Trump lost the 2020 election. The VIP screening with the meet and greet was like $600. He likens it to a bow-and-arrow, pulled taut.